I hesitate to answer a question with a question… but how much frustration do you want to endure while training, and especially while hunting?
Being steady is not based on a dog’s physical skill. It’s more of a mental exercise that requires calmness and patience from the dog and consistent control and enforcement from you. It’s important because it’s at the core of training and hunting success. Rarely is it the dog’s fault if he is not steady. Most often, the owner is simply not committed. That’s a shame, really.
Being steady is required in a variety of situations and it’s important for you to be aware of all of them. Here are some…
Yes, you are right. Being steady is a dichotomy of experiences.
You are putting an easily excitable dog in a highly charged environment and demanding that he stay calm and quiet. Being steady is behavioral control. It can be easier to achieve with a ‘genetically more passive dog’ than with a hard charger for obvious reasons but equally necessary in any dog. Remember, for the most part, Labs and all retrievers that come from quality lineage are bred to retrieve; hopefully with passion. Being steady is one of the things YOU need to make happen.
Understand that you do not steady a dog in 10 minutes, 10 lessons or 10 months. Sure, you can begin the process in that time but to be steady in a variety of required situations is something you reinforce and demand forever. Show signs of weakness for a minute and your dog will exploit it in seconds. That’s why it’s very important to start early and build a solid base. The longer you wait, the more bad habits your dog will develop and well… you know what happens after that.
But… timing is important because you do not want to discourage a dog’s enthusiasm by getting him to be steady too early.
This is another one of those ‘find the proper balance’ situations and an example that there is no set timetable for teaching a dog most skills. Every dog is different and should be trained with that in mind.
I like to encourage drive in a dog and make him mad about retrieving early. Remember the dichotomy example. You are making a dog crazy to retrieve and then telling him to wait to retrieve. But I think that sometimes the more enthusiastic your dog is to retrieve, the easier it is to teach him some delay because his enthusiasm for the retrieve will allow you some wiggle room to hold his focus. It can be a fine line and it’s important to teach to your dog’s level of intensity.
Teaching steady takes more patience on your part than knowledge. You simply do what it takes, short of force, to get your dog comfortable sitting and staying at your side until sent. Eventually add distractions. Eventually add bumpers. Be creative and progress from there.
Delay is a good tactic to help teach patience which is at the core of steady.
Make your dog wait before you send him for a retrieve. Not so long that he loses interest, but delay the retrieve. Delay will help build his intensity and reinforce that he does not go for a bumper or bird until you send him. Steady!
It’s also a good idea to throw a bumper, or even a few as you progress, and then just go pick them up yourself while the dog watches you, followed by throwing one that you send him to get in a controlled way. Another good idea is to sometimes throw a bumper, make him mark, and then heel him away and have him retrieve the bumper from a different spot than you were in when you threw it. I like doing that a lot and I do it often. Just be careful with a young dog because you don’t want to confuse him.
Always reward a young dog (any age dog for that matter) for being patient on a retrieve. Not with a treat, which is just a distraction, but with praise. As he is sitting and waiting, keep him calm by gently rubbing his head and softly tell him what a good boy he is. No treats – being sent for the bumper is his ultimate reward.
Be smart about shooting.
Reinforcing steady is a primary reason why you should not shoot on your dog’s first or first few hunts. Let your buddies shoot and you sit with your dog and help him to be steady through every phase of the process. Your dog best learns skills taught in small doses over time. Be patient. I know, I know, this is tough to do. You’ve been working hard with your dog for a long time and you want to shoot his first duck. Try this: On your dog’s first hunt, take your favorite hunting partner with you and tell him/her that you want them to have the honor of shooting your dog’s first duck. Then set it up as best you can for that to happen. You will discover that watching your dog perform gives you greater satisfaction that shooting.
In training, retriever launchers that fire a 22 blank cartridge and/or starter guns are helpful when fired by you or a partner at a short distance away. Gunfire is the ultimate stimulation to overcome for a steady dog. But DO NOT – DO NOT – DO NOT add any shotgun shooting at any distance to teach being steady until your dog has been properly conditioned to the gun. DO NOT.
After he is gun conditioned, you will want to introduce shotgun fire to help teach being steady. Shotgun blasts will fire up a dog but regardless, he has to be steady. Shoot a real gun before you take him hunting so he knows what to expect.
As with many of my recommendations, having a ProCoach help you get started with teaching steady, is a wonderful idea.
Unfortunately my TWO Chesapeake Bay Retrievers haven’t been raised to hunt, they are naturally great at retrieving, anything..!! And as you write, their enthusiasm is off the charts. We throw for them often. They are 7 years old. The one thing I never did for them (I didn’t know nor take the time to learn) was to train them to steady before a retrieve. Is it possible to train them now..?? Or is it, sadly, too late..?? And if so, do you have a lesson online I can go to..?? Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Tommy Brou
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Tommy,
First, thank you for checking out the website and for your question.
I do believe that ‘old dogs can learn new tricks,’ but you have many challenges and there are many variables. The easiest solution for you would be to take both dogs to a pro. https://labsnducks.com/pro-coach/the-procoach-concept/ But that takes time and money. I’m guessing this is something you want to do on your own.
But — having a pro evaluate them and see your dogs up close and personal would be very very helpful for you.
Off the chart enthusiasm will make it tougher to be steady at their age. And giving two dogs equal training time is another challenge for you. I would not work with them to be steady together – way too much of a distraction and the bad habits of one will impact the other. That’s a tough one for you because I am sure they run together.
I am assuming that since you went to a website on how to train your dog to hunt, you are talking about keeping them steady while duck hunting. Even so, it all starts in the back yard – one at a time with no distractions. Don’t even let the other one watch because he will get all fired up and make his turn harder for you.
Everyone defines levels of steadiness differently based on their level of need for their dog to be steady. You need to decide how you define steady.
Anyway…
I would start (one at a time) in the back yard. Try doing it after he has run around a bit and hopefully burns off some energy. If he walks at heel, do that for a few minutes with a SHORT lead as a signal “OK we’re getting serious – now you have to be under control.”
Then I would have him sit and heel at your side with the lead on. While sitting, rub his head to ease him – saying “sit / stay / good boy”. Maybe even give him a treat if he does it well but only if he does it well.
At first, do not require him to stay this for long – start at like 10-seconds (which may feel like an hour to him) or until he really starts to break away. This takes time and much repetition and one step builds on the next. Be patient. Vey patient.
Once he can stay for say 20-seconds, throw the bumper maybe 10 feet away BUT KEEP ON LEAD and do not yet send him. Ease him again like you did to start the drill. Then send him for the bumper. Do not let him play with the bumper. His reward is to get the bumper, come back quickly, and be steady again so you will send him for another one. Keep the short lead on him so you can get hold of him if (when) he starts bouncing around.
Once he begins to get it, extend the distance just a bit but remember the goal is NOT to get hm to make long fancy retrieves, it’s to get him steady until you send him for the bumper.
The first few times, just do it once or twice. And when done, walk him around on lead at heel again. As he gets it, you can move to 3 or 4 times and extend the time you require him to sit before you send him. DO NOT LET HIM BREAK. When he really gets it, use a starter gun when you throw the bumper to simulate actual hunting.
That all sounds easy(!) but from what you say about their enthusiasm level, it is not easy and will take time. Lots of time – and everything you do is x2. Your biggest challenge is your level of commitment. https://labsnducks.com/need-to-know/the-labsnducks-theorem/
Keep your expectations in check. You’re not looking for a brag dog, your looking to teach him basic sit/stay/steady. Excitement and enthusiasm is next level when hunting and that makes everything harder for the dog. The atmosphere of the duck blind, seeing birds fly and being required to stay steady, you shooting the gun and missing and him being required to stay steady, you actually dropping the bird and him still being required to stay steady until sent — egad, that’s a lot to ask of a dog and a lot of work to get him to that level especially in your situation.
As ‘steady’ as my dogs have been, I leash them to a stick in the ground when waiting in the blind and until I send them. I’m not out to impress the guy with me,
I’m just out to keep everyone safe (especially the dog) and to make the retrieve as easy as possible.
Reread the steady post on my website and there are also parts of some other posts on the site that may be helpful to you. Remember, once you start requiring ‘steady’ you don’t stop.
Don’t consider this post to be the end-all-be-all. It’s just something to nudge you in the right direction. Good luck. Feel free to keep in touch.
Frank